Wednesday, November 01, 2006

My Two Cents On The Kerry Bruhahah

Bottom line: Anyone who actually heard or watched the statement Kerry made would know he was talking about Bush, not the troops, unless:

A. They are disingenuous partisans trying to make hay out of it in order to change the topic from Iraq, corruption and covering up for pedophiles, like the republicans and their media pawns are now doing.



Update by BND:

The Kerry camp strikes back.

Here is some text from a new CNN article regarding this fiasco.

A Kerry aide said that the prepared statement, which had been designed to criticize Bush, "was mangled in delivery."

Kerry was supposed to say, "I can't overstress the importance of a
great education. Do you know where you end up if you don't study, if you aren't
smart, if you're intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in

Before the announcement that the statement was botched, McCain, a Vietnam veteran and former prisoner of war, joined his GOP colleagues in condemning the remark and demanding an apology.

But Kerry refused to relent, calling the criticism part of the "classic GOP playbook."

"I'm not going to be lectured by a stuffed-suit White House mouthpiece standing behind a podium, or doughy Rush Limbaugh, who no doubt today will take a break from belittling Michael J. Fox's Parkinson's disease to start lying about me just as they have lied about Iraq."

He further expressed disgust with "Republican hacks, who have never worn the uniform of our country."

Kerry added that Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney "owe our troops an apology" because they "misled America into war."

Bush and Cheney "have given us a Katrina foreign policy that has betrayed our ideals, killed and maimed our soldiers, and widened the terrorist threat instead of defeating it," the senator said.

And a statement from Max Cleland sums this up pretty nicely
"John Kerry is a patriot who has fought tooth and nail for veterans ever since he came home from Vietnam. He has stood with his brothers in arms unlike this administration, which exploits our troops to make a political point and divide America,"

What the hell is wrong with people? I work with several conservatives that are jumping on this "swift boat", yet I believe that it shows a complete lack of intellegence and critical thinking ability. I've heard very few Republicans actually talk about issues, but are always quick to lambast thet character of anyone who speaks up for a Democrat. This is no different than Rush attacking someone seeking a cure for a horrible disease.


BigNewsDay said...

I couldn't agree more dude. I will state that Kerry'statement was poorly made and probably not appropriate in the speech, but if you can't figure out that this decorated war veteran was taking a swipe at the policies of a bunch of draft-dodging asswipes, then you truly are a fucking idiot.

BlackLabelAxe said...

I've read transcripts, and listened to audio bits trying to find a reason why he would say something so assinine.

If he had meant to say it like he did in that statement, then he fucked it up so badly that I'd nominate HIM to be the jackass of the day, just for fumbling words so badly.

John Kerry is spineless jackass whose insensitivity and irrelevance continue to amaze me. Until John Kerry earns a dollar that didn't come from either the US Government or some rich guy's widow, he can kiss my ass regarding every subject under the sun.

That being said, it doens't make his critisizm less true, because Bush is an idiot. I don't even want to contemplate the lesser of two evils between them anymore- I have no use for either.

BlackLabelAxe said...

..and to anyone rushing to defend that jackass, I'd like to remind you that the gap between what he MEANT to say and what he did say is not excusable when engaged in public speaking.

You know damn right you wouldn't offer the same shelter to a GOP man who fumbled a speech that badly.

If Democrats had any clue what's going on, they'd all come out and distance themselves from that comment- even if they throw in a little love about how they know he probably didn't mean it like he said it.

BlackLabelAxe said...

"You know education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. And if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

He didn't rush to correct himself afterwards- NOPE. He just sat there while the kids he was talking to laughed it up.

BigNewsDay said...

I still say that this is a non-issue that is being exploited by the GOP to divert attention away from the REAL issues such as how bad Bush has fucked up in Iraq, and corrupt the GOP is.

B.L. Sabob: now "completely heterosexual" said...

They're just so fucking desperate that they are jumping all over this non-issue in order to change the subject from the myriad repuslican failures.

Just fucking pathetic.

The sad part is that there will actually be voters swayed by this bullshit.

BigNewsDay said...

fuck, how many times has Bush fucked up a speech?

At least Kerry can speak English.I'm getting really pissed off over all these GOP asswipes that are mad because Kerry hasn't apologized to our soldiers.


...and he sure as hell shouldn't apologize to Bush. I'm not a big Kerry supporter, but this non-issue has gotten so far out of hand. The GOP fuckwads have turned this into an attack on the soldiers, and they should be the ones apoligizing.

B.L. Sabob: now "completely heterosexual" said...

even without the word "us" that he claims was supposed to be in there, it was clear to me that he was talking about Bush.

Only someone looking for an excuse to Dem-bash could believe otherwise.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of Kerry's. I'm more of a Howard Dean kind of guy. But piling on him for this one is just plain bullshit. Another GOPig Weapon of Mass Distraction.

By the way, Bush never earned a dollar that didn't come from his daddy's politically connected business pals or Angel Investments from Saudi Arabians. And he ran just about every company he was given into the ground. So that argument is a fucking wash.

So, when is Bush going to apologize for the hundreds of mangled sentences he's delivered in public?

BigNewsDay said...

Those were sentences?

B.L. Sabob: now "completely heterosexual" said...

"Our enemies never stop thinking of ways to hurt us and neither do we"
-- GW Bush

How DARE he suggest that we are thinking of ways to hurt ourselves? The OUTRAGE!! He must apologize immediately, and all republicans should distance themselves from this America-hater as quickly as possible.

BlackLabelAxe said...

-To my knowledge, all the money and opportunity Bush has was made available to him by his dad.

-If anybody wants to rag on Bush, George Soros is the man to do it. He's bought out the companies that W turned for the worse, and brought them into prosperity. It's intensely ironic that the "pro-capitalism" Bush failed at enterprise, and the bankroller of turned his failures into peaches.

Soros >>> Bush

-I have no doubt in my mind that Kerry meant to slam on Bush, but that's not what he said, and instead of rushing to correct himself or clarify, he did what he does best, which is act like a self-riteous, arrogant prick.

-The GOP is bankrupt of ideas, and their wheelhouse is in forclosure. This comment from Kerry can certainly be used to influence weak-minded idiots, which is why it was like a gift to Carl Rove.

-Anybody who thinks that Kerry's comments, whatever the fuck he meant, has any impact on anything in this election is certainly retarded, but it doesn't mean the Democrats aren't also fucktarded and clueless.

-This issue is just media static over a sea of important ideas, like BND said. It doesn't effect me whatsoever, because I'm either voting Libertarian, or I'm going to write-in Ken Hawk.

Let me know if Michael Badnarik, Garrett Michael Hayes, or Alan Buckley say something like this, then I might care. I'm not voting for one single Republican or Democrat this year. I'm sick to death of the shit, and I'm tired of picking the lesser of two evils.

ken hawk said...

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Lefty Metalhead said...

The Republican smear machine has give us the latest installment of the "swift boat" series. You must be a complete fucking moron to think that Kerry would even think of committing career-suicide by belittling the troops! This is an abomination, and Republicans should be ashamed of themselves for even attempting to spin Kerry's remarks. That's about the end of my rant clearing-up the situation for Kerry. I didn't support Kerry in the 2004 primaries, and I only voted for him in the general election because the GOP is just so fucked up. I'm looking forward to bigger and better Dem leaders, of the Obama, Durbin, Feingold, and Edwards type.

The midterms are Tuesday, and I'll go on the record saying that the Dems will take control of the House. I'm not so sure about the senate, but there's a good chance they will. It's time for the Dems to demonstrate how governing is really done.

BlackLabelAxe said...

Mr. Ken Hawk,

I'm just letting you know that if there's only a Democrat or Republican running for a position next Tuesday, I'm writing you in as my candidate of choice.

I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me LIBERTARIAN or give me KEN HAWK!!!!(one)!!!1!!1!

BigNewsDay said...

Well put Axe!!!

Seaspook said...

The CNN article is just the usual liberal media trying to put a positive spin on a liberal letting his real agenda peek out and to rewrite the facts.

And what's this "it's so obvious he meant to say..." He said what he said and he meant every word of it. Kerry has a long history of trashing American troops.

Oh, and by the way the Swift Boat troops served with Kerry and know what a self-serving disingenuous big of bag hot air he is.

He went Nam to pad his resume, not to serve his country and got his medals under false pretenses (he lied) and used political full.

BigNewsDay said...

I couldn't disagree with you more Seaspook.

This myth of the "liberal media" is a crock of shit and you know it. It is all "corporate media". These stations aren't there to push an agenda, they are there to market products.

These swift boat assholes did not serve on the same boat, not even the same fleet of boats with John Kerry. Most of those assholes have never even met John Kerry, yet still acted like they knew his entire life story in those bullshit attack ads.

It was obvious to me what he meant. Like I said in an earlier comment, if anyone can't decipher what he meant, they lack any ability to think critically.

Listen, I'm not a big supporter of John Kerry, but I would rather see politicians live and die by their stance on REAL issues, and not all of this stupid bullshit that means nothing.

I would love to see your proof regarding Kerry's motivation to go to war in Vietnam and exactly what he failed to do to earn his medals. Sure sounds like a hard way to pad your resume.

BlackLabelAxe said...

My gripes about Kerry haven't changed. He's an arrogant prick who's never worked a day like we have.

I'm not interested in saying things about his Vietnam service, because it has nothing to do with the issues of today.

The fact that he's speaking to a small group of college kids in a small college in California just shows how irrelevant this jackass is.

However, if I was the President, I'd be talking about important issues like energy independence, fundamental tax reform, and international trade issues before regurgitating the same old tired bullshit about Iraq and terror. Issues ought to be a hell of a lot more important to voters than a 5 second sound byte.

Seaspook said...

bignewsday said: "These swift boat assholes did not serve on the same boat, not even the same fleet of boats with John Kerry. Most of those assholes have never even met John Kerry, yet still acted like they knew his entire life story in those bullshit attack ads."

These Swift Boat 'assholes' did serve honorably and include an Admiral. This was a small unit not a fleet and many of these MEN knew Kerry personnaly (one was his Commanding Officer) and some served in the same boat with him. None have even the least respect for him. He showed up for duty with an 8mm camera wanting film all of his 'exploits'. He fled and abandoned comrades under fire.

It could be argued that none of that has anything to do with now, but it difines the character of the man. Further he came back and smeared our troops by lying in the US Senate calling them murderers. He never served in the areas he claimed atrocities took place.

He also has a record of supporting Communist regimes in Viet Nam and Nicaragua.

Seaspook said...

Oh, ya, 'the myth of liberal media bias' this study from liberal UCLA:

BigNewsDay said...

How can you give any credit to a study that states that the Drdge Report is left of center?

Seaspook said...

The Drudge Report is mostly just a compilation of news stories from other sources. That professor must have been a conservative mole at UCLA. Just look at difference in how the White House Press Corps behaves between Democratic and Replublican administrations. I've watched for years and it's right there in your face.

If I thought there were a chance to save you from liberalism I would make the effort; unfortunately, I've found the effort is wasted because reason never prevails with libs and even evidence is of no value.

B.L. Sabob: now "completely heterosexual" said...

"liberal media?"


That's rich.

Sure, multi-national corporations are working against their own financial intersts.

General Electric and Disney are for higher corporate taxes and more regulation of industry.

Quick! Alert their shareholders!

Hows that Kool-Aid going down?

B.L. Sabob: now "completely heterosexual" said...

Is that the same "liberal media" that gave us 24/7 coverage of Clinton's Cock for 2 1/2 years?

BlackLabelAxe said...

Whatever bias the media used to carry has been laid to waste by the alternative media and the internet.

Fox News leveled the competition with a right-wing-values friendly broadcast that made the others fall in line.

I can read through any liberal page and get the same news a conservative page carries, it just takes a little bit of common sense and interpretation.

Blaming media bias is truly a pathetic excuse for failed policy.

Lefty Metalhead said...


What are the other instances in which John Kerry trashed the troops?

Don't drink the right-wing kool-aid. Such "trashing" of the troops is all fabrication meant to fool people. You, sir, have been fooled!

BigNewsDay said...

Bottom Line:

It's better to botch a joke than to botch a war.

Lefty Metalhead said...

That is the bottom line BND, you nailed it! HOW MANY PEOPLE DIED DUE TO KERRY'S MISTAKE?

Seaspook said...

lefty metalhead,

Do some googling, I don'r need to I heard him. He trashed the troops on the Senate floor before the end of Nam. He recently accused troops in Iraq of terrorizing women and children. There are other instances, do some checking.

BigNewsDay said...

Well, when he is up for re-election, campaign against him, but in this mid-term election, this topic is completely irrelevant and over-blown.

BigNewsDay said...

Also, the Republicans that are making such a big deal of this seem very silent about the issue of the House Republican leader calling the Generals in Iraq ineffective.

BigNewsDay said...

gotta love double-standards

Lefty Metalhead said...

Actually, the White House has blamed U.S. Military generals for the failures in Iraq! Why aren't Republicans crying about this? The double standard indeed! I can't wait for Nov. 7!